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#849, September 27 - October 3:
The Weekly Extreme Str8ts Puzzle

by Andrew Stuart

WARNING: This is the Weekly 'Extreme' Str8ts.
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by: hepa

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by: kris

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 Many small steps, but once again easier than it seems at first glance; doable with Setti and CE. Thank you, hepa!
 

by: jo

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 Nice puzzle, considerably easier than last week’s. Which is actually not a problem at all, since I have a lot to do this week :-)
 

by: Hel

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Wonderful puzzle, Settis and VCE. Thanks hepa!
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by: acs

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 The Weekly Str8ts puzzle #849
 

by: Klaus

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H5 <> 4 makes quite a nice puzzle
 

by: Cleo

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 Xwing 8 gives the position of 4 in G. Then follow Klaus.
 

by: Gerd

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 Now Klaus' hint makes senseW3Z8
 

by: Rudik

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 What does W3Z8 mean??
 

by: hoke

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 Captcha with wrong Focus?
 

by: A. Friend

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 Even with Klaus‘ and Cleo‘s hint, this is a beast
 

by: Pete

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 @A.Friend: A very tame beast, just a matter of setti 4,2,3,8 and CE :)
 

by: Gerd

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 @Rudik, hoke is right, captcha on wrong place
 

by: A. Friend

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 @susi low
 

by: A. Friend

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 @Pete no… The point for me is, and I believe this is ignored too often here and on the right side, we all approach the puzzles differently and we all have strength (e.g. fishes) and weaknesses (e.g. settis) and CE and others are even another difficulty. When people say: “This one is easy.” Or as you say: “Tame”, this is your view, with your background and your experience. This may not apply to others. Some time I did them daily (bought the packs) and now I do it once a week at most. Hence my skills have degraded. As with my English since I stopped working. My 10 cent.
 

by: Pete

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 Dear A.Friend,
If you are the first to use a non-objective term like "beast" to describe a puzzle's difficulty level, you shouldn't be surprised if someone else puts that into perspective. Up to now, "beast" has been used here to describe a puzzle that is exceptionally complex and can only be solved using unconventional methods—such as multiple chains.
(Without Klaus's hint, I do think it's a "beast.")
 

by: hoke

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Without hints after Xwing 8:
In F if 2 is missing, then 1 is missing too and nothing else
3 missing in col 4 => 2 missing in col 4 => 123 missing in F, contradiction
5 missing in row F => 6 missing in row F => 6 missing in col 4 => 2 missing in col 4, contradiction
6 missing in row F => 6 missing in col 4 => 2 missing in col 4, contradiction
3 missing in row F => 6 missing in row F, contradiction
So missing in row F is 12 or 89, F56 must be 34 and 3 is missing in row E
8 missing in col 4 => 9 missing in col 4 and 89 is missing in row F, but 1 or 8 must be missing in col 7, contradiction
8 in col 4 => H4 = 4, which includes the hint of Klaus and solves.
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by: acs

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 The Weekly Str8ts B puzzle #241
 

by: optimator

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 a very difficult pattern: I will try again during the day...
 

by: Cosmanita

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 Great! Very nice, but difficult one. Key for me were box 6, and box 4,5,1. E89=89 and E3=45 not working in these boxes, the same for B89=23 and E3=45. For both left options, D4 ist low, one of these options collapses soon.
 

by: Neunmalneun

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  D4 = low is also consistent with my solution, but I cannot confirm that E89 <> 89.
 

by: Pete

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 Nice surprise, a bit more difficult than usual, but CE and B-Power is enough.
(I agree with Neunmalneun)
 

by: aw

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 Aesthetical judgement like Cosmanita - no wings, no Settis! (But result like Neunmalneun <:-) My keys were the possible spectra for the angles G456/4GHJ and D34/E321, and then it went surprisingly quick and straightforward - wonderful puzzle.
 

by: aw

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 Correction: 3DE/E321
 

by: optimator

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 finally! Mostly CE. Thanks, Andrew!
 

by: Only Human

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difficult but straight forward - very nice puzzle!
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by: acs

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 The Weekly Str8ts BX puzzle #241
 

by: optimator

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by: jgrab

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 13', not as fast as optimator ...
 

by: Maven

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 Also 13'
 

by: pax

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12'50'' :)
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 The Weekly Str8ts X puzzle #241
 

by: jgrab

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 A nice challenge. A chain shows that D4<>7 (x power). Then, however, I had to test B789 hi/lo.
 

by: Only Human

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I like difficult puzzle - great one - but gave up this time - too many guesses needed, at least for me, will continue tomorow
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  • Wings and settis. But no way without hints. ♫
    - Alan B Traherne
  • Klaus's hint + Setti 4,2,3 + basics; other hints/guesses not needed!
    - Pete
  • @susi - low
    - b*k*
  • ich komme auch nicht weiter. dashalb schliesse ich mich Susi an. ist B89 hoch oder tief ?
    - dersoloist
  • 45‘
    - A. Friend
  • All those hints I found by myself, but do not find the sulution... Maybe someone can tell if B89 is high or low?
    - Susi
  • Sehr harte Nuss, viele Stunden trotz der bisherigen Hilfe. Nur ein x-wing gefunden.
    - b*k*
  • H5 mehr als 4, weniger geht nicht.. hilft mir aber auch nicht
    - Biggi
  • @dersoloist: es bedeutet, dass es keine 4 auf H5 geben kann
    - Rafa
  • 46', setti combinations
    - pax
  • 2hrs, big challenge. BCA (combined settis), wings, VCE, then h/l B89 is logic.
    - UZ
  • With a little help from my friend...
    - H.E.
  • 52' So hard even the hints barely helped. Just making guesses to start chains. Not fun at all.
    - ataraxia
  • I´m obviously blind, don´t see how this hint can help
    - Gerd
  • was bedeutet H5 ist ungleich 4?
    - dersoloist
  • 40min - glücklich geraten
    - Rot
  • I can find only 1 xwing on 8. Others?
    - Cleo
  • 42' with Klaus' beautiful hint. Quite interesting.
    - Maven
  • 49' at third attempt. Col. 4 was decisive. Settis and fishes.
    - Manfred
  • 3:04 Rekord ;)
    - Marit
  • 50' w/o hint, chain or "decision". Just ce, settis, wings...
    - waltweb
  • 35 min
    - Julioflor
  • 46' - The hint was helpful, but in an unexpected way
    - COM
  • Very careful elimination/Settis/Wings, in the end it was jgrab's hint that did it. 2h.
    - notsonewbie
  • Klaus' hint and some fish and setti
    - ThomasF
  • 2:02:53 extrem schwer
    - zoo-pony (Tartlau)
  • Filling cells, 1 x-wing, 1 setti. Hi/Lo decision on B89, then careful elimination.
    - Solver_99
  • 1:05 - Combinating
    - joop
  • not too difficult
    - Only Human
  • 30min, many x-wings,
    - bhk
  • Lucky guess on B89 hi/lo solves directly.
    - jgrab